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Arargh did not say this:>>For someone who makes such a stink about proper timesharing you seem>>remarkably unwilling to allow your computer to do things in the>>background -- the principal benefit of having a timesharing machine>>dedicated to a single user.>BAH said this:>Again you don't know WTF you are talking about. The computer I am>using now would crash if I allowed it to do anything but one thing >at a time. I even wait for it to finish writing out a file before >going on to the next request.
Learn to cope with the attributions correctly or I will stop readingyour posts alltogether.-- ArarghMail712 at [drop the 'http://www.' from ->] BCET Basic Compiler Page:
In article <fkbapb$8qk_001@s894 apx1 sbo ma dialup rcn com> alt folklore computers jmfbahciv@aol com says...> In article <MPG.21d22ed8ccdaea499896c6@news individual net>,> krw <krw@att bizzzzz> wrote:> >In article <fk8dbg$8qk_001@s832 apx1 sbo ma dialup rcn com>. > >alt folklore computers jmfbahciv@aol com says...> <snip>> > >> >3) Yes it is a hardware problem. ;-)> >> > >> Well get to work ;-)).> >> >Who me? I'm retired. ;-) > > What? AGain?
> I'm stuck in the house. I have 3" of ice on the > driveway. To walk across requires creeping--it's that smooth> and slippery. Yesterday. I got 3' of the driveway next to the> road cleared. It took five trips outside to do it. I have> 17 more feet to go before the car will be able to move as it> should.
>In article <XpS3GW89cQaHFw2U@34klh41lk4h1lk34h3lk4h1k4 invalid>,> Mike Barnes <mikebarnes@bluebottle com> wrote:>>> In alt usage english. HVS wrote:>> >On 19 Dec 2007. Mike Barnes wrote>><snip>>>> >I'm not positive about this but I seem to recall that the option to>> >"ignore upper-case" is selected by default.>> >> In which spell-checker? So I can be on my guard. I still can't imagine>> why anyone would want that even as an option.>>Microsoft Words options are apparently _all_ set the wrong way. It's That's been true of MS for quite a while now. :-)
>said that if can turn off the options there is a fairly good Word >Processor there. On the griping hand its file format is bananas. Oh. >one must be extremely careful when sending Word documents out as they >tend to save previous states of the document. Imagine the possibilities >for negotiation or litigation. And WPs are used by the least computer >savvy people of all computer users. I have never tried but I would think that saving files in RTF formatwould elminate the previous version problem. And I think also thedocument virus problems.-- ArarghMail712 at [drop the 'http://www.' from ->] BCET Basic Compiler Page:
Except that with proportional/fixed it's just the matter of clickingthe "fixed/proportional" button on the toolbar. ASCII art has been withus since the beginning and it's reasonable to expect people to usereaders that know how to deal with it.
In article <fkbb9s$8qk_001@s894 apx1 sbo ma dialup rcn com> alt folklore computers jmfbahciv@aol com says...> In article <5ssp6bF1ai1p9U1@mid individual net>,> Frances Kemmish <fkemmish@optonline net> wrote:> >Mike Barnes wrote:> >> In alt usage english krw wrote:> >> > >>>It was available in NY from farmers at least in the not too> >>>distant past. One of the engineers I worked with bought about> >>>30gal a week. "straight from the cow".> >> > >> > >> That was quite a cow.> >> > >> >> >30 US gallons is about 114 litres. 114 litres per week is about 5928 > >litres per year. Modern dairy farms can produce about 6000 litres per > >cow per year.> >> >So in theory it would be possible for him to get 30 gallons from one cow.> > That would be about 6 milk cans. IIRC. 30 gallons/week for a family> is a lot of milk.
In article <87ve6us736 fsf@pobox com> alt folklore computers emschwar@pobox com says...> Frances Kemmish <fkemmish@optonline net> writes:> > Mike Barnes wrote:> >> In alt usage english krw wrote:> >>> >>>It was available in NY from farmers at least in the not too> >>>distant past. One of the engineers I worked with bought about> >>>30gal a week. "straight from the cow".> >>> >>> >> That was quite a cow.> >>> >> >> > 30 US gallons is about 114 litres. 114 litres per week is about 5928> > litres per year. Modern dairy farms can produce about 6000 litres per> > cow per year.> >> > So in theory it would be possible for him to get 30 gallons from one cow.> > During her university days my wife worked at a dairy farm. At a> dairy you measure output in pounds (or kilos. I suppose if you live> in one of those communist terrorism-spawning countries like Canada or> France); I recall her saying that average production at her dairy was> something on the order of 30-50 pounds per cow depending on a variety> of factors.> > Taking > as one data point. I assume your average cow will produce around> 16,000 lbs per year. That works out to about 44 pounds per day. A> pound of whole milk weighs about 1030 kg/m^3 which works out to ~8.5> lbs/gal. My hypothetical cow produces about 5 gallons of milk per> day so over a week that's just over 35 gallons making it reasonable> to assume the engineer in question was able to buy 30 gallons of milk> a week from one cow.> The farmer my thing in terms of #s ("hundred-weight") but the consumer thinks in volume (gallons).
>On Wed. 19 Dec 2007 15:31:43 -0600. Oleg Lego><rat@atatatat com> said:>>> On Wed. 19 Dec 2007 09:57:16 -0800. Bob Cunningham posted:>> >> >On Wed. 19 Dec 2007 10:05:54 -0600. Frank McCoy>> ><mccoyf@millcomm com> said:>> >>> >> In alt folklore computers Bob Cunningham <exw6sxq@earthlink net> wrote:>> >> >> >> >On Tue. 18 Dec 2007 19:00:49 -0700. Lon Stowell>> >> ><lon stowell@comcast net> said:>> >> >>> >> >> Guy King wrote:>> >> >> > The message <74jbm3h5vv3gg30egi8oo02v408rv7ssr4@4ax com>>> >> >> > from Bob Cunningham <exw6sxq@earthlink net> contains these words:>> >> >> > >> >> >> >> What is it supposed to say? >> >> >> > >> >> >> > And why's it got a wandering "T" in the top right corner?>> >> >> > >> >> >> Ah yes. I see only the "T" as well. Someone said it had a TM there. >> >> >> but apparently the M is silent.>> >> >>> >> >When I was trying a variety of fonts. I got the "M" at least>> >> >once but usually just the "T".>> >>> >I tried that again this morning and was unable to repeat the>> >results. With one copy of the signature I always got the>> >"TM" ("(tm)"). With another copy which I got from where I>> >don't know it's always a "T".>> > >> >> The "TM" is a single character.>> >>> >And it seems that sometimes and somehow that single>> >character gets decoded as a "T".>> >>> >But that's a side issue. The significant point is that>> >symbols entered by a user with one font can't be depended>> >upon to produce the same results in the fonts used by>> >readers. >> >>> >One outstanding case in point is the use of vertical bars in>> >a signature with the hope of having them line up in a single>> >vertical line. It often turns out that only happens if your>> >reader uses a fixed-pitch font like Courier New or Lucida>> >Console. For one example see *,>> >which is a screen capture from an AUE poster's signature as>> >my newsreader sees it.>> >>> >I suspect that most readers use a proportional font but I>> >don't know if anyone knows for sure. That's why I don't use>> >that format in signature files. I think there are those who>> >say that accepted Usenet practice is to use a fixed-pitch>> >font. I suspect that that convention is mostly a quaint>> >relic of bygone times.>> >>> >Another case in point is the common practice of trying to>> >underline something in one line with characters in a line>> >below it. Maybe more often than not the underlining isn't>> >close to what it's supposed to be underlining.>> >>> >*>> >>> >> Sure but if you see something that doesn't line up isn't your first>> though of proportional vs fixed pitch? After that whether or not you>> want to see it is decided by yourself. The poster with the signature>> should not be expected to cater to the lowest common denominator.>>The poster with the signature is the one who presumably>wants people to read what he or she writes. That desire may>be defeated if the reader chooses to ignore a jumbled mess.>>The poster with the signature would do well to remember that>readers can't be expected to be using either proportional or>fixed pitch and to avoid composing something that depends>upon either of them.
If a poster generates ASCII art using a proportional font. I wouldagree as it is quite a hassle to change your proportional font justto have a look at it. If it's done using a fixed pitch font all ittakes is a single click of a button assuming a decent newsreader.
Assuming that y'alls definition of "mompop" is an unaffiliated computer store that sells mostly whitebox stuff and occasionally puts together a PC for a customer how could you expect to find a Mac or Linux in the most common current iteration of one?
If they do sell a computer with Linux on it what happens ? They can't sell any of the geegaws and doodads lining their shelves that *only* work with Windows (if at all); there's no market-induced need to purchase a new OS every couple years (which usually requires a hardware upgrade) and tech-support won't get as much work.
A store featuring Linux or any non-M$ OS would have to be built from the ground up and IMHO would have very little in common with the batch of bazaar vendors currently in the business.
> As others have said. Mompop farm it out (*especially* if it involves> ordering and shopping carts and stuff). They probably hire somebody to> design it and maintain it because that requires expertise and software> they don't have (it's not a hardware question). They hire someone to> host it because for a small monthly fee you get 24/7 uptime and> backups and POP and SMTP servers while the cheapo ISP Mompop uses won't> even give them a fixed IP number and prohibits "servers" (definition> left up to the ISP) and won't let them use their mompop com domain.
And much better for mom&pops. HHG why does _anyone_ want to maintain their own web server except for those in the web server business. They get a template they can live with and for most that may well be enough. Oh and they should pay too much as the web business is _full_ of people who just throw some boxes on the net with OK a fast connection. NO. NO NO. It's a hard business requires monitoring 24/7 accurate and checked backups etc etc and etc.. I have spoken to some people who do this an it is not easy and costs more than you imagine if you haven't done it. Your customer wants to order on Dec 25 at 3AM and will be upset if he cannot so having an Othodox Jew on the staff is a good idea. >;)
> Yes in fact it's the *only* viable solution for small businesses.> Just keeping up with what they need to make their web site secure is> the job of a full-time person. Let it be one full-time person for an> ISP maintaining hundreds of little company web sites rather than one> for each or a mom or pop trying to keep up while running their own> business as well.> > -- Patrick
That too and the machines that will be failing at all hours and the backbone providers who will develop problems and doing the thousand and one tasks the web services provider does.
"Eric Smith" <eric@brouhaha com> wrote in message news:m3sl1yz286 fsf@donnybrook brouhaha com... ....> The LSB of the address selects a byte within a word. Word addresses> are even.>> There's one bizarre exception to the "word addresses are even" rule.> Some models make the general registers available from the console,> and while R0-R7 are word registers they are assigned consecutive > addresses,> so R1. R3. R5 and R7 are full words at odd addresses. However this is > not> visible to software.
Frank McCoy wrote:> In alt folklore computers rpl <plinnane3@yahoo com invalid> wrote:> >> posted into this thread cuz most of the people I expect to be able to >> answer this are in it or lurking.> > You might try alt callahans.>
I might if I thought that there would be enough auld farts in various related fields sitting around chewing the fat; that one might have the knowledge and inclination to share the tidbit I'm looking for. Having at some point in time been an IRCop in a #Callahans channel. I can appreciate the social atmosphere and duck thrown shotglasses.
I could try a local university: how many levels of noobs would I have to go through to reach somebody who could even understand the question ? .. and be prepared to answer even if his university didn't offer any related courses.
> In article <m3k5naz1pd fsf@donnybrook brouhaha com>,> Eric Smith <eric@brouhaha com> wrote:> > snip-- > > >Bob Pease has been trying for years to educate EEs that just because> >their circuit works in Spice (simulation) doesn't mean that it will> >work in reality.> > along those lines i remember being surprised in the 80's by how easy it > was to design a part with CAD that could not be machined> > autocad 2.52 or somesuch...
In article <fkbb1s$8qk_003@s894 apx1 sbo ma dialup rcn com> alt folklore computers jmfbahciv@aol com says...> In article <qN-dnQ7hVZ8uF_XanZ2dnUVZ_vTinZ2d@comcast com>,> Lon Stowell <lon stowell@comcast net> wrote:> >Roger Blake wrote:> >> In article <20071218071814.38317700 steveo@eircom net>. Steve O'Hara-Smith > wrote:> >>> So you'll be wanting IPV6 as soon as there is significant technical> >>> resource that is available over IPV6 but not IPV4.> >> > >> By the time that working with IPV6 becomes a necessity in the U. S. I> >> should be retired from the computing business after which it will not> >> be an issue as I will have neither a computer nor an internet connection.> >> > >> >Yeah. I figure it is of mostly academic interest to me not only for the > >rest of my career but I'll never need to worry about it unless they > >start fitting headstones with internet connections.> > Unless the people who are supposed to read your medical tests> are on an incompatible network.> > >> >However it is kinda fun to poke around with for grins.> > Are you a doctor? No ticklish.
> On Mon. 17 Dec 2007 00:32:14 -0500. Joe Pfeiffer wrote> (in article <1b1w9l3mzl fsf@snowball wb pfeifferfamily net>):> > > Well. I don't have a cite on the volume of a pipe organ (especially with > > orchestra and choir added). But I've never come away from an organ nor > > orchestra concert with my ears ringing.> > Somewhat off topic but there's a man in Great Falls. Virginia who has a > Wurlitzer theater pipe organ in a barn attached to his house.> >
(link back to index to read the > story of the organ and its restoration)> > We attended a concert played on this thing which is in a relatively enclosed > space and it certainly was loud but no ears rang.
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