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"citizens of india vs supreme court of india" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-10-14 04:58:30

Say a person was caught by police on suspicion of pick-pocketing. The police produce the accussed before the magistrate in turn he remands him for judicial custody. Let us consider. The punishment for this offence pick-pocketing as per law is 6 months imprisonment. However the case drags on for 3 years finally the court finds him guilty of offence & orders for 6 months imprisonment. Totally the offender serves 42 months imprisonment sentence in practice. In some cases the courts consider the time already spent by the accussed behind the bars while giving judgement. In this example even if the offender is let free taking 6 months imprisonment sentence the offender has been given excess sentence of 36-6=30 months. Say a rich industrialist is accused of rs.20 crores tax evasion he is let free on a personal bond of rs.1 lakh. Stamp paper scam kingpin karim lala telgi has swindled government to the tune of thousands of crores of rupees only few cases are registered against him. That too in one out of those cases involving rs.45 lakh worth stamp sale judge has given him rigorous imprisonment plus a fine of rs.50000. Even within prisons the number of prisoners per sq ft area no of doctors hospital beds medicines available weight of food per day given to prisoners are all less & much below the statuotary limits. The food health care living conditions of prisoners under-trials are worse than pigs. The prison authorities are utterly corrupt which has been brought into light again & again by the media. If a poor prisoner questions the illegal acts of the officials he is subjected to 3 The law of limitation which stipulates time limits for filing various cases is also biased towards the government as a party & rich mighty. For the purposes of evidences filing of cases one needs various government records. The concerned officials don't provide those records for years unless bribed & sit over the files for years. Some times by making absurd illogical file notings rejects it back. There is no time limit for the performance of duties by public servants. When a commoner don�t get relevant records files evidences in time how can he file cases in time without those records evidences ? Nowadays numerous cases of irregularities charges of corruption against judges are coming to light. However in such cases judges are asked to resign from service but no criminal prosecution against them is instituted only in cases involving lower court judges it is done. When a case of irregularity by a judge in a specific present case comes there are every possibility that in the past also he has committed the same in cases handled by him which has not come to light. In such instances all the cases handled by that particular judge throught his career must be reviewed but is not done why ? does not it amount to cover-ups ? In many cases the higher courts have turned down the verdicts of the lower courts let free the innocents absolved innocents of charges & annulled death sentences when appeals came before them. However in all such cases the lower court judges must be punished for giving out wrong judgements meating out injustice to innocents. Here a fact must be noted only a fraction of cases goes in appeal to higher courts as in majority of cases the poor people lack the financial might to make the appeal. The so-called free legal services authority pre-judges the cases before giving legal aid. As a result many innocents poor people resign to their fates suffer injustice in courts of law undergo imprisonment punishment some times even death sentence. So the urgent need of the hour is to incorporate jury system or some outside monitoring system to review cases as & when decided. In many cases involving the rich & mighty like telgi case proceedings are conducted in-camera in judge's chambers or proceedings are conducted through video conferencing outside from public gaze. The tapes are not made public and the public cann't even ascertain the validity of tapes whether it is edited doctored. One of the basic reasons for delayed justice & worse prison conditions in India is low number of judges police personnel higher rate of case adjournments and finally low amount of financial grants made by the government to judicial department / police department. The government states that it doesn't have enough money to provide for judiciary & police. As a result fundamental / human rights of innocent commoners are thwarted. The state governments & GOI is one of either parties in 75% of cases before various courts in India it is the biggest litigant & is influencing the judiciary by controlling the grants recruitment to judiciary & by enticing some with post-retirement postings. The government has got money to spend on lavish parties of VVIPs. IAS officers serving non-veg foods alchoholic drinks their foreign jaunts. 5-star bungalows limousines interior decorations of their bungalows etc which is of higher priority importance whether the luxury of VVIPs or the fundamental / human rights of commoners ? the courts should answer. The courts have the legal powers to order governments to provide enough financial grants to it however it is keeping mum turning blinds eye to crimes of VVIP�s the government rewards such judges with salary hikes promotions luxury cars bungalows perks and post-retirement postings sites at judicial lay-out yelahanka. Bangalore etc. is known for using the constitutional mandate and authority to initiate actions of public interest. The court in the past has even taken note of newspaper reports to initiate suo motu actions against suspected breach of law and misuse of office by public servants. This earnestness and enthusiasm has not been thus far reflected in the Indian courts' approach against scrutinising the activities of the courts and its judges. On the contrary the Indian courts have been very parochial in its approach in facing criticism. Earlier this year the Supreme Court of India had forced Mr. Vijay Shekhar a journalist with a television news channel who exposed the caucus of a corrupt magistrate his court staff and some lawyers in Gujarat state in the "Warrants for Cash" scam to apologise to the court or to face a term in jail for contempt of court. The court staff and the lawyers were caught on camera negotiating and accepting bribe for the magistrate for issuing arrest warrants. In the episode which was telecast nationwide the magistrate after accepting bribes issued arrest warrants on false charges against the President of The conviction and sentencing of journalists of Mid-Day for publishing information about the conduct of Mr. Sabharwal has brought to the fore the issue of judicial accountability. The Indian judiciary is one of the most powerful judiciaries of the world. The conduct of the judiciary has a direct impact upon the life of the ordinary people of the country. It is imperative in these circumstances that a state institution of such high powers must be transparent and accountable for its actions. The courts in the only way to remove a judge from the High Court or the Supreme Court is by way of impeachment. This constitutional provision has failed miserably. Its ineffectiveness was clearly demonstrated in the case of Justice V. Ramaswami. At the same time despite verbal homilies the courts and judges have been the most reluctant to evolve even a self-monitoring mechanism for accountability. Such a situation has caused enormous arrogance and abuse of power. under the Contempt of Courts Act. 1971 the term 'contempt' is not defined. Therefore if any person makes adverse comments against the court or a judge the power to punish for "scandalising the court…" is frequently invoked. This approach is considered obscure in most established jurisdictions. The contempt of court action must not be an attempt to protect the dignity of the court but to promote the administration of justice. The dignity of the court is promoted by the court being humble enough to face criticism whereas promotion of justice is to be carried out by removing all hindrances in the delivery of justice. By the unrestrained use of contempt of court actions the courts in India are in fact derogating from their duty to safeguard the Constitution of the country which also guarantees freedom of speech and expression in Article 19 (1). The honour of the judge and the judiciary - a state institution through which a judge is supposed to serve the people - is promoted and protected by the openness of the judge and the judiciary to face any criticism. Intolerance to scrutiny and lack of openness equates the judge and the judiciary with a dictator. At this pace the Indian judiciary once known for its eloquence and its contribution to the advancement of free thought and expression will soon be reduced to an egotistical institution. Such a judiciary is definitely not what modern However the above stated public servants preferred to violate law themselves & to protect the criminals. The public servants & the government must be role models in law abiding acts for others to emulate & follow if a student makes a mistake it is excusable & can be corrected by the teacher if the teacher himself makes a mistake all his students will do the same mistake if a thief steals he can be caught legally punished & reformed if a police himself commits crime many thieves go scot-free under his patronage even if a police public servant commits a crime he can be legally prosecuted & justice can be sought by the aggrieved. Q18 india preaches non-violence panchasheel principles to the world. In india more than half the population are poor people are starving to death. Inspite these background. GOI funded & aided terrorist outfits in former east Pakistan ensuring the creation of Bangladesh. GOI has funded & aided terrorist outfits like LTTE. TULF. ETC in srilanka. MQM in Pakistan. In turn these terrorist outfits have murdered thousands of innocents in those countries. Are these acts of GOI just & legal ? Is not GOI responsible for all those murders of innocents ? has GOI paid any compensation to those victims or their family mebers ? why not ? Q21 in india. TADA. POTA is being rampantly misused by police. Even where there are no problems of terrorism. TADA / POTA is being slapped against innocents even children. In M. M. Hills of Karnataka state. STF personnel charged tribal people with TADA on frivolous charges of taking lunch to veerappan stiching dress for the forest brigand etc where as the prominent political film sports personalities who have links with underworld anti national elements & attended parties hosted by dawood Ibrahim other dons in gulf countries else where. But these hi-fi people are not charged with TADA / POTA ? why ? Q22. Film actor sanjay dutt had contacts with underworld & fully knowing well the criminal objectives of criminals hid the dangerous arms & ammunition in his home which were intended for terrorizing public. However mr dutt is not charged with TADA / POTA instead he is charged with illegal possession of arms act ( which is normally applied to farmers who use illegal home made guns to scare away animals birds in their farms ). Why this favourable treatment of mr dutt by police ? prosecution ? is this because dutt is politically mighty & rich ? Q24 recently in Bangalore police nabbed criminals belonging to international criminal syndicate selling duplicate nokia mobiles. Every nokia mobile comes with 15 digit IMEI number this number is also used by police for tracking criminals. In consumer dispute at consumer disputes redressal forum Mysore CD 49/05 nokia company stated that all it's products come with IMEI number only & stated that the product in dispute sold by tata indicom dealer M/S INTOTO COMMUNICATIONS. Mysore are not their's as it doesn't have IMEI numbers. Further nokia stated they don't have any business relationship with either tata indicom or it's dealer. However the tata indicom dealer stated that indeed his products are genuine first hand products but doesn't have IMEI numbers this proves the dealer in collusion with tata company is selling illegal nokia mobile hand sets & cheating the public. These mobiles are evading taxes as well as these are without IMEI numbers best buy for criminal elements who want to evade police tracking. What police are doing ? Q32. Our constitutional frame workers gave legal immunity privileges to certain constitutional functionaries so that they are not burdened with frivolous court cases & can concentrate on their constitutional duties. But these privileges doesn't cover the individual actions of those public servants like rape murder dowry harassment tax evasion misuse of office etc but still law enforcement / police department is bound to send request to home ministry seeking permission & home ministry sits over files for months. This gives the accussed ample time to destroy evidences. Is it right & legal ? Q85 judges are not employees of government so they are ineligible to be the members of "Karnataka state government judicial department house building co-operative society". Then how come many judges including supreme court judges are admitted as members of this society & allotted prime residential site worth crores of rupees for a few thousands by the said society at said society's – judicial layout yelahanka. Bangalore ? while the ordinary members like peons clerks in judicial department are waiting for a site since years is not the whole thing grossly illegal ? Q86 in more than 70% of cases before all courts in India central government or state government or government agency is one of the parties. How many judges or their family members have received out of turn favourable allotments of sites gas agency petrol pumps etc by the government ? is not such allotments illegal ? what action ? DPG/M/2006/80008. DARPG/E/2006/00057. DARPG/E/2006/00225. DPG/M/2006/80021. DARPG/E/2006/00253. DPG/M/2006/80032. DARPG/E/2006/01149. DPG/M/2006/80047. DARPG/E/2006/01164. DPG/M/2006/80043. DPG/M/2006/80085. DARPG/E/2006/06704. DARPG/E/2006/07017. DARPG/E/2006/07018. DPG/M/2006/80159. DPG/M/2006/80162. DARPG/E/2006/07864. DPG/M/2006/80165. DARPG/E/2006/07877. DPG/M/2006/80167. DARPG/E/2006/08028. DARPG/E/2006/08029. DARPG/E/2006/08032. DARPG/E/2006/08043. DARPG/E/2006/08044. DPG/M/2006/80174. DPG/M/2006/80193. DARPG/E/2007/00044. DPG/M/2007/80003. DPG/M/2007/80010. DARPG/E/2007/00164. DARPG/E/2007/00165. DPG/M/2007/80014. DPG/M/2007/80025. DPG/M/2007/80049. DPG/M/2007/80055. DPG/M/2007/80056. DPG/M/2007/80078. DPG/M/2007/80082. DARPG/E/2007/02618 to review the sentence given to cine actor mr sanjay dutt. He is charged under illegal possession of arms the stand of prosecution is biased the culprit cine actor kept the arms knowing fully well for what purpose it is being kept he had had regular contacts with anti-national underworld elements. Still he is not charged under either TADA or MOCA WHY ? WHERE AS ORDINARY CRIMINALS WHO HAVE DONE LESSER QUANTUM OF CRIME THAN HIM ARE CHARGED WITH TADA & PUNISHED SEVERALLY. WHY THIS DOUBLE STANDARDS BY THE JUDICIARY ? HEREBY hrw also appeals to honourable supreme court of india to make public the transcript of underworld don abu salem's polygraph test did sanjay dutt had any links with abu salem or other anti national elements ? how many film stars sportspersons & politicians have regular contacts with underworld elements more specifically dawood ibrahim & chota rajan and how many of them have attended parties hosted by them in gulf countries ? Say a person was caught by police on suspicion of pick-pocketing. The police produce the accussed before the magistrate in turn he remands him for judicial custody. Let us consider. The punishment for this offence pick-pocketing as per law is 6 months imprisonment. However the case drags on for 3 years finally the court finds him guilty of offence & orders for 6 months imprisonment. Totally the offender serves 42 months imprisonment sentence in practice. In some cases the courts consider the time already spent by the accussed behind the bars while giving judgement. In this example even if the offender is let free taking 6 months imprisonment sentence the offender has been given excess sentence of 36-6=30 months. Say a rich industrialist is accused of rs.20 crores tax evasion he is let free on a personal bond of rs.1 lakh. Stamp paper scam kingpin karim lala telgi has swindled government to the tune of thousands of crores of rupees only few cases are registered against him. That too in one out of those cases involving rs.45 lakh worth stamp sale judge has given him rigorous imprisonment plus a fine of rs.50000. Even within prisons the number of prisoners per sq ft area no of doctors hospital beds medicines available weight of food per day given to prisoners are all less & much below the statuotary limits. The food health care living conditions of prisoners under-trials are worse than pigs. The prison authorities are utterly corrupt which has been brought into light again & again by the media. If a poor prisoner questions the illegal acts of the officials he is subjected to 3 The law of limitation which stipulates time limits for filing various cases is also biased towards the government as a party & rich mighty. For the purposes of evidences filing of cases one needs various government records. The concerned officials don't provide those records for years unless bribed & sit over the files for years. Some times by making absurd illogical file notings rejects it back. There is no time limit for the performance of duties by public servants. When a commoner don't get relevant records files evidences in time how can he file cases in time without those records evidences ? Nowadays numerous cases of irregularities charges of corruption against judges are coming to light. However in such cases judges are asked to resign from service but no criminal prosecution against them is instituted only in cases involving lower court judges it is done. When a case of irregularity by a judge in a specific present case comes there are every possibility that in the past also he has committed the same in cases handled by him which has not come to light. In such instances all the cases handled by that particular judge throught his career must be reviewed but is not done why ? does not it amount to cover-ups ? In many cases the higher courts have turned down the verdicts of the lower courts let free the innocents absolved innocents of charges & annulled death sentences when appeals came before them. However in all such cases the lower court judges must be punished for giving out wrong judgements meating out injustice to innocents. Here a fact must be noted only a fraction of cases goes in appeal to higher courts as in majority of cases the poor people lack the financial might to make the appeal. The so-called free legal services authority pre-judges the cases before giving legal aid. As a result many innocents poor people resign to their fates suffer injustice in courts of law undergo imprisonment punishment some times even death sentence. So the urgent need of the hour is to incorporate jury system or some outside monitoring system to review cases as & when decided. In many cases involving the rich & mighty like telgi case proceedings are conducted in-camera in judge's chambers or proceedings are conducted through video conferencing outside from public gaze. The tapes are not made public and the public cann�t even ascertain the validity of tapes whether it is edited doctored. One of the basic reasons for delayed justice & worse prison conditions in India is low number of judges police personnel higher rate of case adjournments and finally low amount of financial grants made by the government to judicial department / police department. The government states that it doesn't have enough money to provide for judiciary & police. As a result fundamental / human rights of innocent commoners are thwarted. The state governments & GOI is one of either parties in 75% of cases before various courts in India it is the biggest litigant & is influencing the judiciary by controlling the grants recruitment to judiciary & by enticing some with post-retirement postings. The government has got money to spend on lavish parties of VVIPs. IAS officers serving non-veg foods alchoholic drinks their foreign jaunts. 5-star bungalows limousines interior decorations of their bungalows etc which is of higher priority importance whether the luxury of VVIPs or the fundamental / human rights of commoners ? the courts should answer. The courts have the legal powers to order governments to provide enough financial grants to it however it is keeping mum turning blinds eye to crimes of VVIPs the government rewards such judges with salary hikes promotions luxury cars bungalows perks and post-retirement postings sites at judicial lay-out yelahanka. Bangalore etc. Recently in the media an interview with the present chief justice of India was reported. In the interview the honourable CJI stated that he is against any compulsory disclosures to be made by judges ie he is against any external supervision of judges performance as any self respecting judge would not like this. He is for voluntary disclosures by judges themselves. It is true thinking on the same lines our constitutional forefathers thought that only people with self respect personal integrity will come to occupy high constitutional offices in parliament legislature & judiciary as at the dawn of independence there were great educationists statesmen in parliament judiciary in the whole of public service that is the reason they have left out blank in drafting disciplinary proceedings against erring judges ministers. MLAs. MPs. They have not even dreamt of the present situation now see the opposite individuals facing murder rape extortion charges are in parliament state legislatures corruption is rampant in judiciary. These facts have been publicly acknowledged by union cabinet ministers supreme court judges themselves. This problem has grown out of proportion due to failure of self regulation transparency by judiciary & parliament. Even certain technicalities actions of the judiciary are biased for the rich & mighty. The cases of commoners drag on for years months without a hearing whereas the special leave petitions which only rich can afford & other cases which the judge thinks urgent comes for hearing at the shortest time & even interim orders are issued. The judiciary in convenient cases initiates suo-motto action based on media reports considers e-mails post cards of high profile individuals / NGOs as PUBLIC INTEREST LITIGATIONS and takes action. Whereas when commoners send appeals for justice concerning public good about violation of fundamental/human rights & obstruction to performance of fundamental duties those are not even considered. Honourable CJI is only concerned about the self respect of judges what about the self respect of common people. When a commoner asks for accountability of judiciary or parliament he is slapped with contempt charges what about his self respect ? When innocent commoners are arrested without warrants illegally detained beaten up by police what happens to the self respect of those individuals ? who bothers about the shame job losses broken marriages fall of community relationships his whole family suffers as a result ? due to corrupt police officers sometimes innocents are put behind the bars unable to pay the bail amount they suffer in jail for years while the real crook who is rich will be roaming outside on bail. Ofcourse finally the court may absolve that poorman of charges but what about his self respect the trauma his whole family faces ? what about poor people who unable to bear police 3 Nowadays numerous scandals involving ministers. MLAs. MPs are reported in the media. The government drags it feet for months sometimes years to give legal sanction for prosecution thereby indirectly aiding the tainted in manipulation of evidences records. Finally the tainted are let-off for lack of evidences in courts. In high profile cases opposition parties raises hullaballo an enquiry / parliamentary committee is formed to inquire into the issue. The committee takes months to complete it's findings the government takes months to table the report months to take action & months to table action taken report. Finally. VVIP is let off the hook even if found guilty he resigns from the membership of the house. In the same manner senior judges facing charges of irregularities / corruption are either asked to resign or not allotted any judicial work. Only in rarest cases impeachment motion is brought about by parliament. In this manner on quid pro quo basis the functioning style action time of judiciary & parliament are mutually helpful. Instead of dragging on the cases for years spending lakhs of rupees the tainted ministers judges can be subjected to scientific tests like polygraph brain mapping etc & the truth can be found out but not followed why ? Just see the recent media reports about justice bhalla. See the recent reports in "vijaya karnataka' about whole irregularities in recruitment process by Karnataka public service commission. KPSC selects candidates for quasi-judicial positions like taluk magistrates tax officers labour officers etc what about UPSC. JUDGES SELECTION COMMITTEE etc ? when an unfit person pays bribe to get a job it is to reap more profits afterwards. Naturally corruption spreads. Just remember "ROOST RESORT SCANDAL" involving selectors- high court judges & the candidates - newly selected women judges. The commoners do have self respect as VVIPs & in the spirit of equitable justice VVIPs must be treated on par with commoners with respect to enforcement of law. Or else it will go against the letter & spirit of constitution & violative of people's fundamental rights. Ofcourse there are honest persons in public service � judiciary parliament it is an humble appeal with full respects to them to legally prosecute their corrupt colleagues. Simply because the favoured ones � the judges will give favourable judgements when the cases of these godfather's & their cronies comes before them � the prodigal sons. As in other wings of government corruption has spread it's tentacles far & wide in the judiciary also. Remember " roost resort"scandal" � wherein the newly selected women judges were returning favours immorally to their selectors � high court judges of karnataka. We have seen various media reports about crimes of judges like- attempt to rape murder practice of untouchability misusing medical re-imbursement scheme receiving kickbacks in the form of royalty for a book lifting furniture from govt quarters dishonouring national flag false affidavit of age underworld link etc however what disciplinary actions were taken such erring judges no news at all. Even HRW persistently requested the CJI about the same no reply till date. Our constitution has given independence to judges to freely make their own inference interpretation oflaw so as to give an impartial just judgement. Our constitutional frame workers thought that our judges will be wise enough to perform within the realm of established jurisprudence & logical reasoning. As per law the public don't have a right to question the action jurisprudence of a judge with respect to any judgement. The public can only appeal. This independence of decision making given to judges coupled with legal immunity given to them is being misused by some corrupt judges. These judges are giving out biased judicial orders without the backing of any logical reasoning or established jurisprudence. If a commonman questions these corrupt judges about their actions it is termed as " contempt of court" the commonman is punished & the voice seeking the truth is silenced forever. The corruption among judiciary is more wide spread in lower judiciary & quasi-judicial bodies like landappellate authorities licensing authorities etc a criminal in the garb of a judge is more lethal than 1000 hard core criminals put together. Hereby. HRW urges the honourable chief justice of 5 in bangalore yelahanka judicial lay-out how the residential sites worth lakhs of rupees were allotted to high ranking judges just for few thousands by the karnataka govt judicial dept employees housing co-operative society? The judges are not govt of karnataka employees & govt of karnataka is a party in nearly 70% of the cases before the courts. 3RD DEGREE TORTURE PERPETRATED BY POLICE IN INDIA- Gross violations of human rights by policeAt the outset. HRW salutes the few honest police personnel who are silently doing their duties inspite of pressures harassment bypolitical bosses & corrupt superiors inspite of frequent transfers promotion holdups etc overcoming the lure of bribe ,those few are silently doing their duties without any publicity or fanfare we salute them & pay our respects to them and hereby appeal to those few honest to catch their corrupt colleagues. The police are trained to crack open the cases of crimes by just holding onto a thread of clue. Based on that clue they investigatelike "Sherlock holmes" and apprehend the real criminals nowadays when police are under various pressures stresses – they arefrequently using 3rd degree torture methods on innocents. Mainly there are 3 reasons for this :1) when the investigating officer (I. O) lacks the brains of Sherlock holmes to cover-up his own inefficiency he uses 3rd degreetorture on innocents.2) When the I. O is biased towards rich powerful crooks to frame innocents & to extract false confessions from them. 3rd degreetorture is used on innocents.3) When the I. O is properly doing the investigations but the higher-ups need very quick results – under work stress I. O uses 3rddegree torture on innocents. Nowhere in statuette books police are legally authorized to punish let alone torture the detainees / arrested / accussed / suspects. Only the judiciary has the right to punish the guilty not the police. Even the judiciary doesn't have the right to punish the accussed / suspects then how come police are using 3rd degree torture unabetted. Even during encounters police only have the legal right authority to immobilize the opponents so as to arrest them but not to kill them. There is a reasoning among some sections of society & police that use of 3RD DEGREE TORTURE by police is a detterent of crimes. It is false & biased. Take for instance there are numerous scams involving 100's of crores of public money – like stock scam fodder scam etc involving rich businessmen. VVIP crooks. Why don't police use 3rd degree torture against such rich crooks and recover crores of public money where as the police use 3rd degree torture against a pick-pocketer to recover hundred rupees stolen ? double standards by police. In media we have seen numerous cases of corrupt police officials in league with criminals. For the sake of bribe such police officials bury cases destroy evidences go slow frame innocents murder innocents in the name of encounter etc why don't police use 3rd degree torture against their corrupt colleagues who are aiding criminals anti nationals ? double standards by police. All the bravery of police is shown before poor innocents tribals dalits before them police give the pose of heroes. Whereas ,before rich. VVIP crooks they are zeroes. They are simply like scarecrows before rich crooks. Torture in any form by anybody is inhuman & illegal. For the purpose of investigations police have scientific investigative tools likepolygraph brain mapping lie detector etc these scientific tools must be used against rich crooks & petty criminals without bias hereby we urge the GOI & all state governments :1) to book cases of murder against police personnel who use 3rd degree torture on detainees and kill detainees in the name ofencounter killings.2) To dismiss such inhuman cruel personnel from police service and to forfeit all monetary benefits due to them like gratuity ,pension etc.3) To pay such forfeited amount together with matching government contribution as compensation to family of the victim's of 3rd degree torture & encounter killings.4) To review all cases where false confessions were extracted from innocents by 3rd degree torture.5) To make liable the executive magistrate of the area in whose jurisdiction torture is perpetrated by police on innocents.6) To make it incumbent on all judicial magistrates ,to provide a torture free climate to all parties witnesses in cases before his court.7) To make public the amount & source of ransom money paid to forest brigand veerappan to secure the release of matinee idol mr raj kumar.8) To make public justice A. J. Sadashiva's report on "torture of tribals human rights violations by Karnataka police in M. M. HILLS ,KARNATAKA".9) To make it mandatory for police to use scientific tools of investigations like brain mapping polygraph etc without biasagainst suspects rich or poor.10) To include human rights education in preliminary & refresher training of police personnel.11) To recruit persons on merit to police force who have aptitude & knack for investigations.12) To insulate police from interference from politicians & superiors.13) To make police force answerable to a neutral apex body instead of political bosses. Such body must be empowered to deal with all service matters of police.14) The political bosses & the society must treat police in a humane manner and must know that they too have practical limitations. Then on a reciprocal basis police will also treat others humanely.15) The police must be relieved fully from the sentry duties of biggies & must be put on detective investigative works. Encounter killing is again a hot topic nowadays but with a little difference. This time it is for the suspension of a sub inspector from Mumbai. Daya nayak who is better known as a Encounter specialist. Encounters or extra judicial killings are not a new phenomena for Indian state though it has changed its position or acceptability in the public psyche for past few years. Thanks goes largely to the Mumbai film industry for making several films 'inspired' by the real life of an encounter specialist. After the box office success of such films one can say that the act of extra judicial killing which otherwise is a gross violation of the Justice system the very aspect of our Constitution( by denying the fundamental right to live) the civil liberties and the human rights now got legitimacy in the Indian society. We are catered with the biographical sketch of this encounter specialist by different news channels about how from a humble beginning as a boy in a tea stall he becomes the heroic face of the state police department. According to an unconfirmed 'estimate' he has gunned down some 80-90 persons till date. However the most strange thing about the whole saga is the fact that every one is bothering about his crime of earning the huge amount of wealth disproportionate to his known source of income but no one is giving a damn to his murderous record which is much more disturbing vis-a-vis to his known source of power to do so. Now it is not just a known fact but established fact also that what ever he did in his tenure ,he had actually killed people without having any right ,like many other famous or yet to famous 'Encounter Specialists' are doing. Now they keep on doing because they are doing the same under the full protection and patronage of the state. It is a chilling fact for any civilized society but as far as we are concern we simply habituated and grasped it. Be it Ansal Plaza Shoot out in New Delhi. Or Killing of four person in the outskirts of Ahmedabd more or less after every encounter the story or the logic provided by the state to the people is too innocent to compared only with the Aesop's fables that there was a bad man who fired at the police and police in retaliation fired back to him and he died on the spot. Simple. Very simple. And for the sake of the rule of law please do not make complications by raising disturbing quarries as how not even a single police person hurt by the firing of the bad man? Why police did not tried to catch the person alive ? and so on… However after 9-11 we the people are provided with some upgraded set of logic's. One can name it Gen X logic's. These are logic's with veiled threat. Now it is not just a mere fable but with a strong massage encrypted in it ,' either you are with us or you are part of enemy' and that is why if you try to raise all these disturbing question you could be branded as the enemy. Better you believe what the state says. Now coming again to the very police sub inspector. It is said that he has earned enormous amount of wealth by manipulating his duty of executing extra judicial killings in other words ,a long list of fake encounters by favoring one group of criminal against the other. His departmental bosses are very much concern about his alleged misuse of power. The Irony is being an encounter specialist itself is the product of gross indiscipline and utter misuse of the power provided by the state to the police department. If it is proved that this encounter specialist really has earned this huge wealth by manipulating his ability of encounters by favoring ( read killing) individual of one particular gang of mafia against the other which is a truth yet to discover what charges are going to frame against this fellow? Dealing with this particular case one should have to keep in the mind that this fellow has acquired this huge amount of sum by simply cold blooded murdering a number of people. Just like any other member of the organized crime he had taken 'supari'. This case is a typical in the nature as corruption is just one part of it and the other part is made up of homicide. Part of the media is shrewdly downplaying the later half by overplaying the first half and that is the most dangerous aspect of this particular case. Though there are number of punishments prescribed in IPC for killing a fellow human being starting to rigorous imprisonment for years to death penalty but our encounter specialist do not have to be worry about all that rather he knows it very well that he will face some petty charges of corruption to maximum. A simple sub inspector can not become an encounter specialist over night if there is no political patronage behind him. As far as patronage is concern we have this news published in The Hindu on 23 Nov '03 which says that. The then Home Minister of Karnataka. M. Mallikarjun Kharge ruled out a probe into the encounter killing of two alleged women naxalites in a village near Karkala in Udupi district. In a press conference Mr. Kharge said. "We cannot disbelieve the version of police officials who witnessed the encounter. We have to believe somebody.'' And last but not least ,If a mere police sub inspector can doctor or manipulate this phenomena of 'Encounter'. It would be a chilling realization for anyone that magnitude wise how much scope of manipulation is there for the state to eliminate their political rivals through this 'simple' mechanism of extra judicial killings. JUDICIAL PROPRIETY AND TEHELKA By: Rajeev Dhavan India needs a policy of embargoing post-retirement jobs for judges whilst increasing their retiring age. THE JUDICIARY is in the news in ways that do not do it credit. Beginning with the `defeated' Justice V. Ramaswamy impeachment in the early 1990s the last decade portrays scandals. These include the Bombay Pay-off Scandal of 1990 the controversy over the Bombay High Court Chief Justice Bhattacharjee receiving large "foreign" royalties in 1995 controversies however founded or unfounded over Justices Punchi and Anand - both Chief Justices of India - and Justice Bharucha's declaration that 20 per cent of judges are corrupt. The year 2002 has been a bad year. In An intermediate method has to be created so that judges are answerable and can be disciplined without compromising their independence. But it is not just a question of disciplining judges; but also of dealing with complaints against them in a swift and effective way. Such mechanisms exist for the lower judiciary but not for High Court and Supreme Court judges. From the supercession controversy of 1973 when three judges were superceded for the post of CJI there have been calls for a National Judicial Commission both to (a) make judicial appointments (which after the 1982. 1993 and 1998 judgments are - and that too not quite satisfactorily - in the hands of a conclave of Supreme Court judges) and (b) deal with complaints corruption and misconduct. But ongoing suggestions for a National Commission have fallen on fallow ground. Having wrested the patronage of appointment the judges have dragged their feet on issues of judicial discipline except to produce unenforceable codes of conduct. What are required are constitutional and statutory amendments. Recent history shows that where there is a will constitutional amendments are possible. But there is a lack of political and judicial will to introduce changes. Today judges collectively and in judicial orders make all kinds of suggestions on their pay salary perks and other things. But no consensus suggestion to interrogate judicial indiscipline emerges with credible clarity. Individually 's Chief Justices provide evasive and contradictory answers. In the midst of all this comes the controversy over the commendable resignation of Justice Venkataswami who was the sole Commissioner of the Tehelka Commission. Three issues arise. The first is: what went wrong? Something did. Sometimes judges do hold two post-retirement posts - without conflict or demur. But the Tehelka Commission was not just an inquiry but an inquisition in which the Government had a massive political stake. The proposal to give another assignment to Mr. Venkataswami whilst he investigated Tehelka and its discontents should never have been made. The next slip up was Chief Justice Bharucha's recommendation behind which the Government seeks refuge. No less the offer of appointment should have been declined. This is not a case of conspiracy corruption or misconduct. Mr. Venkataswami integrity is beyond dispute. The famous Pinochet case (1991) was re-heard because Lord Hoffman had broad links with a charity which though not before the 'Lords' had a stake in the cause. In the Curative Petition case (2002) the Indian Supreme Court drew sustenance from the `Pinochet' example on the premise that justice must not only be done but always appear to be done. This sets the tone. Mr. Venkataswami has led by example. Purity is as important as cleanliness. At least one present judge of the Supreme Court declined an above board invitation to a seminar from an American university on the basis that it was unacceptable that anyone other than the Government of should pay for such trips. This sets a standard. The second issue that arises out of Tehelka is whether Mr. Venkataswami can simply be replaced by another judge. There is a stateable case that he cannot. Section 8A of the Commission of Inquiry Act. 1952 was amended in 1971 to permit a Commission to continue if a vacancy arose in a multi-member Commission. The assumption of continuity would survive because a member or members would continue. But section 8A is inapplicable for a single-member Commission or where an entire Commission ceases to exist. It becomes non-existent (non est) and ceases to function (functus officio). Continuity is broken. Replacing Commissions afresh contrives its own politics. There is an even chance that any replacement appointment would be challenged to the discomfiture of any new appointee. This does not mean that the records of the Commission are not available for public use. So far the only real public interest part of the Commission's work was over the military deals - which was heard in camera. These can be examined by a Joint Parliamentary Committee as raw evidence to interrogate lapses. The other aspect of the Commission's inquiry investigates Tehelka's journalistic conduct and wild unfounded allegations that Tehelka tried to destabilise the stock exchange and personally benefit Tehelka's people and financiers. A lot of this is humbug. The `journalistic' ethics issue does not need a Commission's wisdom but along with the accountability of the electronic media should be generally examined by public discourse. There are enough legal provisions to deal with `destabilising' frauds; but the Government knows that they do not have a credible leg to stand on. On this basis the Tehelka Commission needs to be wound up; but the `defence deals' examined by Parliament. The third issue relates to the desirability of post-retirement appointments for judges. There is a dilemma here. Although Inquiry Commission reports generally gather dust there is a public faith that only judges should head such inquiries - indeed that is what made the T. T. Krishnamachari and Kairon inquiries of the 1950s credible. The answer lies in less inquiries and carefully chosen incumbents. Today an inquiry is a general panacea to avoid any public allegation. The Commission process has been devalued. Several statutes - such as the Human Rights and others - necessitate judicial appointments. Such jobs cannot be multiplied as inducements. it is a shame that recently four members of parliament were caught red handed on charges of human trafficking that too misusing their official passports. We have seen in the past various crimes by M. Ps - questions for money kickbacks etc this present sorry state of affairs is due to the caste consciousness of the electorate. The public instead of seeing the honesty integrity of electoral candidates looks just at his caste in this trend they elect persons who belongs to their caste even though he is dishonest untrustworthy & a criminal. Now the number of criminals density of criminals ( who are masterminds in evading conviction ) is more in elected houses of people's representatives – parliament state assemblies panchayaths corporations etc than in the jails outside public society. HRW is ready to prove this subject to conditions in larger public interest. Our people's representatives must learn classroom discipline punctuality of attendance home work from little kids of primary school. We have won the independence by the hard way by the innumerable sacrifices made by great martyrs like mahatma Gandhi. Nehru bhagath singh etc. The criminals who have occupied constitutional positions don't have any right to squander that hard won independence of Indians. The disgrace contempt to august house of people's representatives is brought upon itself by the corrupt people's representatives themselves. We at HRW have highest regards for the institution of parliament this is an appeal to the honest few in the parliament to bring to book their corrupt colleagues & to uphold the dignity of the house ? we have seen media reports of MPs & MLAs cabinet ministers who are wanted by police in serious crimes but absconders not available to arrest as per police records but they are very much present in the government & running the show ? what a mockery of law ? recently we have seen reports where certain MPs extracted money to raise questions in parliament to sanction money under MPLAD scheme we have seen media reports about union communications minister mr pramod mahajan receiving reliance company shares to the tune of crores in return for favourable ruling to that company. In various ways people's representatives misuse their office for personal gains. from peon's job to gazetted officer's rank police inquiry / confidential reporting about the candidate's antecedents is mandatory. In case of sensitive departments like space atomic energy defence etc apart from police enquiry concurrent investigation is conducted by Intelligence Bureau before appointing a candidate to any rank in government service whether as peon or as officer. Whereas in the case of the people's representatives who get elected as MPs. MLAs. MLCs etc no investigation is conducted about their antecedents the affidavits they file before ECI at the time of nomination ( eventhough full of lies ) is taken at it's face value. The ECI doesn't bother to sincerely cross-check those affidavits in 2004 general elections our publication requested for deatails about antecedents of 4 VVIP candidates the ECI replied that they don't have information about them. In this way. ELECTION COMMISSION OF INDIA is favouring the criminals to get elected as MPs. MLAs and eventually to become cabinet ministers. When a criminal becomes a law maker the first thing he does is to cover-up his own crimes & that of his cronies. In the second step he permits officials to indulge in criminal deeds for a cut in the deal. He formulates laws which are favourable to his rich cronies based on those inherently flawed criminal intentioned biased laws the courts of justice judges over cases before it. Can a common man hope for justice what a shame ? The same criminals who are in constitutional offices become privy to very sensitive informations with respect to national security economy etc it is the same criminals who decide over the national policy matters relating to defence economy national security etc don't that criminals sell our national security to our enemies for a price ? are we truly safe under such leaders ? bottom line : still there are are honest persons in politics in parliament & in state legislatures striving for public welfare & upholding the law. Our publication pays our whole hearted respects to those honest few. However criminalization of politics is an acknowledged fact by vohra committee report acknowledged by cabinet ministers themselves & this is an appeal to the honest few MPs. MLAs to book their corrupt colleagues. As per a recent study by UN organization majority of Indians ie more than 50 crore Indians are barely sustaining on Rs.13 per day earnings a whole family depends upon Rs.13 they are struggling to get just single meal per day. People are starving to death farmers are committing suicides people are selling their own children for a bag of grains. Whereas corporate biggies public servants are leading luxurious lifestyles having big parties full of drinks non-veg foods not at their papaa's expense but at the expense of public exchequer out of the tax dues loan repayments cheated to the public exchequer. The banks insist on matching collateral security even for self employment / educational loans by poor for an amount of Rs.5000 if the loans are not paid in time rowdies / recovery agents are sent by banks to collect the amount by muscle power. As a final step banks auction-off properties of collateral security to recover it's dues. Even the tax authorities mercilessly extract tax dues to the last penny from the middle class. The same banks overestimate the project cost of corporates overestimate the project feasibility & it's worth and coolly extend hundreds of crores of rupees loans without matching collateral security. The banks extend overdraft facilities without matching collateral securities to these corporates. When loans are not repaid no rowdies are sent by banks. The promoters directors of such tainted corporates drain – off the companies resources cunningly through insider trading finally making the company sick. Such companies don't pay taxes electricity bills water bills etc properly to respective authorities. The authorities are deaf dumb & blind to all these actions of such corporates. At the end banks write-off such loans as non performing assets (NPA) & file case before courts for recovery of dues. Even if the properties of collateral security are auctioned-off dues cann't be fully realized. Finally public money is swindled. ALL THIS IS POSSIBLE DUE TO THE CONNIVANCE OF KEY BANK OFFICIALS. TAX OFFICIALS WITH CRIMINAL CORPORATES SINCE THE INCEPTION OF SUCH COMPANIES. THIS ALSO POSES UNFAIR COMPETITION TO HONEST CORPORATES. How to stop this ? by making corporate accountability ,accountability of bank tax officials more stringent with penal provisions afterall they are playing with public money not their papa's property. Already by the connivance of public servants bank tax officials we have witnessed many scams like harshad Mehta ketan parekh hawala etc and more than Rs. 2000000 crore NPAs are on the books of the banks. Now the government of is planning to waive-off tax arrears of corporates to the tune of Rs.85000 crore why ? read vijaya Karnataka kannada daily dated 04th January 2007 just look at this in the backdrop of "QUESTIONS FOR MONEY BY SOME MPs" and "MP LOCAL AREA DEVELOPMENT FUND ALLOCATION FOR A PRICE SCANDAL". The government is always unresponsive careless towards the sufferings of poor however it is always on toes to help out corporates that too criminal ones but not honest corporates. Why ? 2 to constitute committees consisting of public persons with powers to scrutinize & verify all the actions of corporates for insider trading like – selling products materials shares to their sister concerns at discounted prices or buying products materials shares from their sister concerns at inflated prices or lending loans at discount rates to their sister concerns or taking loans from their sister concerns at high rate of interest or loaning materials machines to their sister concerns etc. 3 to constitute committees consisting of public persons to scrutinize & verify the annual personal tax returns filed by key bank officials & tax officials who have amassed riches & leading luxurious life styles much beyond the scope of their legal known sources of income. 5 to put behind bar the key bank officials who have helped the corporates in swindling public money by overestimating project viability worth and by overlooking the insider trading of promoters and still extending loans to them. The indian soldiers are sacrificing their comforts lives for guarding the lives of us –crores of indians. However now it seems the threat to the lives of brave indian soldiers are not from the VVIPs strikes deals with arms dealers & awards them defense contracts. As a result indian forces are flush with technologically obsolete aeroplanes war ships artillery etc bought by paying crores of dollars. If any defense personnel questions these actions he is court-martialled & put behind bars. If any ordinary citizens questions them he is silenced through the brute force of police. Even election commission of On the public side the same VVIPs condemn terrorism & other foreign countries. They deploy indian soldiers on the borders terrorist infected areas to contain the mafia they send our soldiers with 3rd class arms & ammunition riding 3rd class aeroplanes ships & artillery to contain violence as a result our soldiers get killed like flees like sitting ducks to be shot at by enemies who are armed with latest weapons. As a result more number of soldiers are dying in plane crashes terrorist bullets than to pakistani or chinese bullets. for a common man judiciary is the last saviour. When thatsaviour himself becomes a demon to whom he should turn the said case pointtowards cases involving rich & mighty whether it is a criminal case ,civil or tax cases etc when rich & mighty are involved they purchaseboth defence & prosecution side involving witnesses governmentofficials testifying. Those who don'tfall into their lines are threatened ,assaulted & even murdered. As awhole the judicial process is derailed. The honest judge who is presiding overthe case remains as a mute spectator & forced to acquit the criminal forfailure of prosecution for lack of evidences. In some cases the judgesthemselves are also corrupt which makes the job much easier for the rich& mighty criminals to go scot-free. Take thecase of editor of e - voice of human rights watch inspite of suffering numerousinjustices physical assaults murder attempts etc and repeated appeals to the authoritiesincluding the chief justice of India & president of India justice is nowhere in sight police have repeatedly enquired the sufferer of injustice butthey never questioned the perpetrators of injustices. It is the constitutionalduty of president of democracy is a farce freedom a mirage the most basic freedom RIGHT TO INFORMATION & EXPRESSION is not honoured by the government,as the information opens up the crimes of V. V. I. Ps & leads to their ill-gotten wealth. The public servants are least bothered about the lives of people or justice to them these type of fat cats parasites are a drain on the public exchequer these people want ,wish me to see dead wish to see HUMAN RIGHTS WATCH closed so that a voice against injustices is silenced forever the crimes of V. V. I. Ps closed buried forever. To my numerous appeals. HRW's appeals to you ,you have not yet replied it clearly shows that you are least bothered about the lives of people or justice to them it proves that you are hell bent to protect the criminals at any cost you are just pressurising the police to enquire me ,to take my statement to repeatedly call me to police station all with a view to silence me all of you enjoy "legal immunity privileges" ,why don't you have given powers to the police / investigating officer to summon all of you for enquiry ?or else why don't all of you are not appearing before the police voluntarily for enquiry ?at the least why don't all of you are not sending your statement about the case to the police either through legal counsel or through post? you are aiding criminals ,by denying me job oppurtunities in R. B. I CURRENCY NOTE PRESS mysore city civil court ,bangalore distict court mysore ,etc & by illegally closing my newspaper there is a gross total mismatch between your actions and your oath of office this amounts to public cheating & moral turpitude on your part.1 you are making contempt of the very august office you hold.2 you are making contempt of the constitution of you are hereby called upon to SHOW-CAUSE within 30 days why you cann't be legally prosecuted for the above mentioned crimes in future with regard to this case if i am called to police station or court etc the loss of my wages & the related expenses must be borne by the government. Meanwhile if anything untoward happens to me or to my dependents you will be directly held responsible along with the perpatrators of crime and you are liable to pay rupees twenty lakhs as compensation to the survivors of my family if none of my dependents survive,donate rupees twenty lakhs to the mother theresa's MISSIONARIES OF CHARITY TRUST,kolkata india. CROSS–EXAMINATION OF HONOURABLE CHIEF JUSTICE OF people are not getting justice their grievances are not getting redressed. However nowadays we are seeing reports of corruption malpractices of judges in the media. In this backdrop our publication appealed to the ultimate saviour of law custodian of constitutional rights the honourable SUPREME COURT OF INDIA bringing before it various cases of injustices human rights / fundamental rights violations concerning public involving public interest threat to life of editor & his family members etc there was no reply no action till date. As a last resort our publication sought information as per RTI ACT 2005 following information from the honourable supreme court of Such/ similar acts/ behaviours by whom-so-ever including Judges is since 1971 is covered as an act of Criminal Contempt of Court [ ]. Not a single Judge is either Impeached or hauled-up for Contempt till 1991. Peoples' Inner Hope Courts to maintain their Majesty & Dignity will prosecute 1000 Judges in context who have tarnished & undermined the Fair image of Judiciary. Let Judges relish Jail for months if not years ; to asses personally the convinences-N-comforts provided even to innocent citizens or persons who were not having Rs. 100 to give as Bail. Then they will be in better position to Transform Jails into Reformation Centres. Jailing corrupt Judges by Judges we hope will instill confidence of people in Courts & law. Who-is-who of In Re. Judges' Mysore Sex Scandal( a)" Will the Supreme Court Publicise Report of " 3 Judges Committee " ( all & sundry material); morefully to know whether any evidence adduced by many in support of Scam is informed to CJI & Supreme Court ?(b) What is the Guarantee that despite prima facie evidence Judges of Supreme Court which consists of Few corrupt Judges seved in Karnataka are not inclined to take stern action ?(c) Investigation of a Crime comitted by Minister or anyone lies within Executive Domain like the case Justice K. Veeraswami in this case CBI. Is it not a case of hushing-up & messing-up of " 3 Pillars of Constitution " ?.(d) How long will you try keeping suppressed Crimes of Judges of Supreme Court & High Courts when Union on 28th Nov.1987 said " Supreme Court is filled with FERA violators & Bride Burners…" ( AIR 1988 SC 1208 ). When Chief Justice Of India Justice E. S. Venkataramaiaha admits that "in every High Court there are 3-4 Judges who are out every evening to Party in Foreign Embassiies or at Advocates' places…drink…dine…" (1990 Cr LJ 2179 ) [].(e) 20% of Judges are corrupt indirectly said Chief Justice of India Mr. Justice S. P. Bharucha in other words admitted that 80% of Judges of India are not corrupt & are above board to be bribed or influnced ? Then why cases are not filed against 20% of Judges ? to decide whether to vote for good or bad person in elections. But this 50 years belated Judgment came as Bolt from Blue to politicians. In this perod Aliens. Anti-nationals. Criminals & all sundries had a field Day. But then What about Criminal / Corrupt / Judgment-for-Sex Judges ?: The Supreme Court was unanimous in the Judgment of corrupt politicians. Parliament is not unanimous to Bridle Judges or judiciary. Nor is the Supreme Court ready to find ways & means to Tame / Terminate / Jail the Corrupt / criminal / Judgment-for-Sex Judges. Such inactions of Supreme Court or High Court is nothing short of giving leverage to such of them. It looks as though Supreme Court on its own is eroding faith of Public in Judiciary as a whole. Like Termites these Judges are Constitutional-Enemies-Within-India who are bent upon to disseminate corruption among other Good Judges. WHAT IS THE PRICE OF SOME CORRUPT INDIAN JUDGES ???In the past there were media reports about judges selling judicial orders like bail acquittal warrant etc for a price. We have read about judges lifting furnitures from govt bungalow judges attempting to rape a victim for giving favourable judgement judge involved in murder attempt judge cleaning his official chamber with ganga water as it was previously occupied by a judge belonging to backward caste judge misusing medical reimbursement allowance judge filing fase affidavit newly appointed women judges paying back for the favours received in an immoral manner to the selectors ie high court judges etc. Indian judiciary is no better than outside civil society it is just a reflection of it. It is rotten & corrupt. When ever a voice is raised against the corrupt judges that is silenced by contempt proceedings. Right from munsiff Judges quasi-judicial officers like magistrates to the apex court corruption is wide spread. Some of them are utterly wealthy & leading luxurious lifestyles much beyond the scope of their legal income. HRW has brought to the notice of apex court numerous cases of crimes by rich & mighty no reply from apex court. HRW editor himself has suffered numerous fundamental & human rights violations perpetrated byrich & mighty to silence him. HRW has appealed about that too to the apex court no reply. HRW editor was not permitted to appear before JAIN COMMISSION OF ENQUIRY & the court probing late P. M. Rajiv Gandhi assassination case as an amicus curie. As a result of raising his voice against injustices. HRW editor was beaten up & attempts to murder him were made his newspaper publications were

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"A Sad Day for The Founding Fathers" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-01-16 02:15:27

New Jersey in its infinite stupidity passed legislation yesterday movement. In bunco this legislation has the potential to undermine the Electoral College and give the state’s Presidential electors to the candidate who wins the national popular vote. Think of it as the no-thought-needed “fix” to the Electoral College. Of course by passing this legislation the NJ lawmakers must assume that all of New Jersey believes that the Electoral College needs to be “fixed” in the first displace (all of New Jersey - because every single New Jersey voter is affected). advance this legislation assumes that not only should the Electoral College be fixed but that this is the right way to do it (which it obviously is not). But in today’s world of quick fixes and easy answers. I’m not sure anyone would care why this is not the right way to handle the Electoral College. So for those of you who don’t want to think go ahead and skip over to another website at this point - I’m going to attempt to explain why this legislation sucks. First it’s a fringe piece of legislation that could only actually take effect if states with a combined 270 electoral votes pass it. In other words we’ve now suited up New Jersey in her beat game garb and set her on the sidelines waiting to be let into the game. Until enough states pass this legislation it essentially means nothing and has no bearing on the current system. Why is this dangerous? Because by passing this bill. New Jersey’s politicians (who have proven their ineptitude almost on an hourly basis) now believe they are “done” with this issue. Nothing could be further from reality. Second the Electoral College was set up as a Constitutional agree between those states who wanted direct election of the President and those who wanted a more Parliament-like system where the Congress chooses the candidate. People today think of the American system of government too much desire the rest of the world’s governments. We’re not desire the rest of the world! Direct elections in another country do not convey that Americans should have enjoin elections! Our Founding Fathers specifically moved AWAY from that form of elections. And don’t go crying about changing with the times. affect on that relativist philosophy. Change is the precursor to revolution and in the only country in the world with mandated suffrage for each and every color creed and gender of human being the only revolution that we truly need is an educational one (perhaps starting with history). Third the Electoral College gives the states power. Don’t believe me? Go approve in time about 20 days ago before Iowa held their caucuses and New Hampshire held their primary and tell me that Iowa and New Hampshire voters didn’t undergo each and every one of their concerns addressed by the Presidential candidates. Take a trip down to South Carolina or Florida or over to Michigan and tell me that issues that directly effect those states aren’t being thought about dissected and presented with solutions by the candidates. The Electoral College ensures that ALL states have a say in who becomes President. To be an American is to evaluate that we are a nation that is comprised of 50 individual states who are joined together under a federal system of government. Period. This is not a nation that has federally controlled districts with federally installed Governors. And fourth in our current system a candidate needs to win all of those middle states with lower electoral choose counts in order to be competitive in the final count. But - did you experience that you only be to win the 12 states with the biggest electoral choose counts to win the Presidency? That means that 38 other states can think one thing but if the 12 biggest states think something else they win. That’s an abomination of what the Founding Fathers wanted for this country. And whether the relativists of today like it or not what the Founding Fathers wanted hundreds of years ago IS relevant to today’s politics because this is America the great political experiment in liberty. Under the national popular choose system all that matters is that a candidate win major population centers not states. Endorsing the national popular vote system is endorsing the idea that states’ rights don’t matter - the claim opposite of what our Founding Fathers fought for so many years ago. How could ANY of the concerns of middle America or rural areas ever be addressed if all a candidate needed to win the election was to win the New York City area. Los Angeles area. Dallas area. Chicago area and Atlanta area votes? What about Fort Worth. Texas? What about Bismark. North Dakota? What about the entire states of Montana. Idaho and Wyoming? Endorsing the national popular vote says that we don’t compassionate about what our fellow Americans needs are in other smaller states and other smaller population centers. It’s an abomination. If the national popular vote succeeds and enough states endorse it then it really might be time to dress the name of this country because we will no longer be the America that was founded on all of those idyllic principles so many years ago. We’ll be a different country with different goals - hell we might as well erase the lines between our states because they won’t be any more. A exceed option would be to follow what Nebraska and Maine do with their electors. Since each state has a be of electors equal to their number of Senators and Congressmen the candidate who wins the popular choose in the state gets the 2 “senator” votes and the rest of the electoral votes and divided into Congressional districts. If you win all of the Congressional districts in a state you win all of the electoral votes. If you win 3 of 7 districts you get 3 electoral votes.

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"booju_newju @ 2007-09-22T22:53:00" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-12-20 20:31:52

Mommy's little secretAs we gather to mark the festive season here's one juicy morsel mom won't be dishing up: that guy you call your dad may not be. DNA testing has revolutionized medical science. CAROLYN ABRAHAM reports but it also has uncovered the myth of female monogamy. Now doctors are wondering how to end the news to menBy CAROLYN ABRAHAM. Saturday. December 14. 2002 – Print Edition. Page F1They came to the hospital together a husband a wife and the little daughter they feared had been cursed by inheritance. Since birth she had struggled to breathe and all the signs pointed to cystic fibrosis. If the girl truly had the incurable disease that clogs the lungs she had to have received two copies of a CF gene one from each parent. Tests at the Hospital for Sick Children in Toronto confirmed the family's worst fears -- and then some. The girl was indeed afflicted. Her mom carried one of the culprit genes. But her dad the doctors discovered was quite a different story. His DNA showed no sign of a CF gene which means he is not a carrier and he is not her dad. Hospital staff have felt bound to keep the secret from him. But when they told the mom it came as no surprise; it rarely does."It is probably true in a lot of families that daddy is not who you think it is," says Steve Scherer a senior scientist in department of genetics at the Hospital for Sick Children. As families interact this festive season here is a spicy fact that mothers might be loath to dish out at the holiday table: It's now widely accepted among those who bring home the bacon in genetics that roughly 10 per cent of us are not fathered by the man we accept to be dad. Geneticists have stumbled upon this phenomenon in the course of conducting large population studies and hunting for genes that cause diseases such as cystic fibrosis. They find full siblings to be half-siblings fathers who are genetic strangers to more than one of their children and uncles who are much closer to their nieces and nephews than anyone might guess. Lumped under the heading of "pedigree errors," these so-called mis-paternities false paternities and non-paternities are all science jargon for the unwitting be of us who are chips off someone else's block. The proverbial postman seems to be ringing twice in everyone's neighbourhood. Non-paternity is believed to cut across all socio-economic classes and many cultures. Factor it into genealogical attempts to trace ancestry and it can mouth entire branches from a family channelise. Considered.

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"News - Women work longer hours" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-12-12 16:42:15

Working flexibly works out fairly well for families but the hours aren’t less and therefore the flexible working patterns can often lead to working 10 and 12 hour days to make up the measure for the shorter working days. It seems that a lot of new legislation introduced is aimed at parents with children under six years of age but the difficulties really go away once the children are in school and educate hours and holidays be to be catered for. Not all children are happy to go into holiday compete schemes my children are particularly shy and really take time to settle in anywhere. I don’t want to create them undue stress just because I go to bring home the bacon. If I could act an unpaid holiday for every educate holiday. I would feel like a much better parent. Mary Ring,Wales It is not always out of choice that women work these long hours. Women cannot afford NOT to work anymore what with growing house prices and huge mortgage payments it is only the luxuriously come up off who can drop for one parent usually the woman to be at home. It has little to do with feminism. Rachel Smith. UK I wonder if many women are feeling cheated by feminism. A century ago most women only had to run the accommodate and care for the children. These days they are doing a job as well. There are a series of reasons for this. Some of them e g rising accommodate prices and living costs meaning that two wages are needed are beyond their control. With others such as having a one night rest with a bloke and then getting pregnant or casually walking out on their husbands at the first sign of difficulty in their marriage they only have themselves to accuse. The wife of the local curate who recently left my local church recently had a baby and since then the first challenge people have been asking her is when she is intending to go to work. Her response is that she doesn’t undergo any plans to do so at the moment as she is quite enjoying motherhood and her preserve’s salary is more than enough to provide for the family. Perhaps society rather than pressuring women to work immediately after having a do by should develop the idea that when experiencing motherhood there is little inform in working yourself into the fasten if the family is come up off enough to live a comfortable lifestyle. One thing that many women find when returning to work after having had children is that after having paid expenses such as those involved with running a second car childminding taxes they actually get to act a very small harmonise of their wages thereby reducing the merit of working. Graeme Phillips. Germany normally UK It is not feminism that has gone too far and if anything feminism hasn’t gone far enough. The fact of women’s workload is rooted in discriminatory economics which renders woman’s domestic role as invisible and requires her to bring home the bacon outside the domiciliate as come up or else depend on a male for survival. Obviously this is not always beat. Women make investments in human capital and social development every day yet this is never compensated for. In the end something has to give and when a woman must decide between having a baby and being able to provide its a sad choice she faces. Feminism has been arguing for the choice in the matter not having to lose out in either decision. Sasha. USA Women are still working less in terms of paid employment than men. But when it comes to bring home the bacon other than paid employment still far too much falls on Women. Men and Women should have an compete right to leisure and equal alter to the come about of a satisfying job. But women comfort be to loose out on one or the other because they seem to end up doing more than their overlap of the unpaid bring home the bacon. Whether that be housework childcare care of a egest or elderly relative. Us women have to be assertive in these things and only do our share. That doesn’t convey that every task should be shared evenly just the total workload should be more evenly divided. But it’s easier said than done. I know a lot of men just act the attitude `If you want the house clean then you should alter it’. One of the reasons I’ve chosen to be single. Linda,UK I bring home the bacon full-time and my day pans out as follows: 6.15 get up get breakfast put out washing do various other household chores clear kitchen and get children into the car for 7.30 to leave for educate. 8.00 bring home the bacon at educate and cycle off to full-time job as an administrator. Shop for the family during lunch hour. get work at 5.00 go to school hive away children and control domiciliate by 6.15. We now have my 85 year old father-in-law living with us so I alter supper for at least five people each night then sort out washing do any cleaning that needs to be done sewing help the children with homework arrange their bath and bedtimes and I might find time to sit down to construe the cover for 10 minutes. Then I try to be in bed by 10.00pm. This is not a 6.78 hour day as suggested by the survey it is a 16 hour working day. 5 days a week and if I am lucky a 10 hour working day at the weekends when other household and tend chores get done. My preserve is a solicitor and works! very long hours too (usually 12 hours a day) but doesn’t have the housework and running of the household to claim with to the same extent as I do and usually manages to get some relaxation when he comes home. Why is it that when populate communicate about ‘working’ they only ever consider work as tasks beyond the household? Running a household is equally ‘working’ - if someone is employed as a cleaner then they are working - so I feel that the very basic assumptions of such work surveys are completely at accuse. Jane,UK I believe myself extremely lucky that having left a good professional job when I had my son three years ago. I managed to find another lay that offers flexible part time hours with good pay and working conditions. I undergo always felt that I undergo managed to bring home the bacon the best of both worlds in terms of maintaining my career and caring for my son. However it is notable that I still bear the primary responsibility for caring for my son e g it is me who has to leave work if he is ill at pre-school to collect him and I comfort do almost all of the housework. This is in spite of the fact that my move time job entails approx. 30 hours a week and my preserve’s beat measure job entails 36 hours per week. Whilst it would be easy to accuse my husband for not carrying his share the fact is that this comes drink to the fact that parenting children and looking after a home are not considered “bring home the bacon” and become instead move of our so called leisure activities. Maybe I haven’t got the best of both world but the beat!Sarah,UK sight that the whole shift towards working women is playing havoc with real family life just look at how many professional couples are now having children in there mid to late thirties as opposed to early twenties a generation ago…. Is this bring home the bacon culture a good thing? Milo O’Neill. U. K I work reasonably long hours (40-45 per week) but the company that I bring home the bacon for has a very good Flexitime system that I conclude should be adopted nation wide. We note on a time sheet the time we arrive have eat and get and if we have done over our allotted hours for the week then we are allowed to take that time off in lieu. Since starting work 2 months ago. I have already had one day off as a prove and ordain probably get another within the next two weeks..

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""Rights"" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-12-01 22:20:21

Hello friends! I ordain be writing about Document 5 and the packet on Debating Democracy. Enjoy. I’ll try my best not to alter it dull ☺ enter 5 is basically what we debated about last categorise. It deals with how Americans should interpret the constitution. The intend of the constitution is to act guidelines for power and liberty. It synchronizes the control of the Government with the liberties and freedoms of its people. The constitution is somewhat of a contract to its citizens. It lays out the basic close in of the country leaving the populate responsible for painting in the picture while staying in the lines (or boundaries set up by the Government). Michael C. Dorf and Laurence H. Tribe alter an arrange of points within their enter. The first is that the account of Rights was crafted in request to protect the natural rights of its people. It secures these natural rights by acting as a checks and balance system for the Government eliminating the possibility of tyrannical rule. The second and most important point made is that while the Constitution balances liberty against power it is comfort only a “framework; it is not a design (pg47).” The vague and ambiguous language that makes up the constitution leaves ample room for interpretation! Was this the intention of our founding fathers? (We ordain undergo to address this in class.) The constitution is one of the most regarded documents in this Country. It is consistent yet everyone approaches it with “different visions different premises and different convictions (pg48).” The different approaches are a direct result of the reader’s wishes. This allows citizens to manipulate the text and exercise in what they accept is permissible. Tribe beautifully describes the role of the populate in our Nation. As citizens it is our job to take the words of the Constitution which is again only a framework and to apply them to today’s issues. “ The Framers of the Constitution wisely spoke in command language and left to succeeding generations the task of applying that language to the unceasingly changing environment in which they live…(pg48).” Because the founding fathers could not undergo predicted every single issue that would arise in the future they carefully constructed a vague document that would reenforce the disputers to bear on their specific problems to the Constitutions general guidelines. (Good old Jefferson always looking out for us). The constitution implements a ameliorate balance of cater and liberty by giving its citizens un-bounding laws that allow us to understand the words and exercise them through using good judgment. The constitution is also very practical because its contents are relevant to all parts of the political spectrum. Although the constitution is quite ideal it does posses several faults. Many believe that the fluidity of the language is its downfall. Because the constitution holds very few concrete laws it should not be used to cause the outcomes of issues. By matching an indecisive document to concrete real life events no sufficient outcome may be reached because the exposit may be swayed based on a biased conviction. “is reading merely an apply in wish-fulfillment… fulfillment of the wishes of readers who perhaps use the language of the Constitution simply as a mirror to dress up their own political or moral preferences in the hallowed language of our most fundamental enter?(pg 48)”. With all of that said the main inform to draw from this document is that the Constitution is inconsistent. Leaving room for argument and the inducement of the reader’s vision of what the change by reversal protocol should be. Now moving on the packet. Oh the packet……. This document is called “Debating Democracy”. The first writer. Mueller discusses the differences between the elite democratic perspective and the popular democratic perspective. Mueller believes that although all humans are born inherently equal their political recognition is a prove of their resources. Resources such as time money and skills. She believes that the elite will always be recognized over the common man. She states that democracies are meant to be “responsive and attentive to the interests of citizenry at least when compared to other forms of government- but they are nowhere come equally responsive to interests of each citizen(pg37).” With this said. Mueller believes that in order to avoid an unfair political representation one must abandon the concept of democracy entirely. This is because democracy is based on capitalistic fundamentals such as “special interests”. “Special interests” are vital characteristics to the form of a democracy forbidding the freedom to compete would be highly undemocratic. Mueller uses an example of a CEO’s voice dominating the voice of an average man without a call. She believes that life society and the entire political system favor the elite. Mueller believes that inequalities are an unavoidable reality and that there is no hope to decree every inspect. The quest for participation is another topic discussed in Mueller’s piece. Most democratic idealists believe that participation is the key aspect of democracy. They accept that the government should constantly be challenged by the well-informed citizens of its nation. Mueller disagrees completely. She argues that democracy would work regardless of its ability to excite its citizens. One of the most common ways to become an active citizen in this country is to choose. Mueller believes that populate can act pride in the success of their government without actually voting. She thinks that voting is an unnecessary go in achieving a democracy because the outcome often sides with the elite. Mueller believes that the only way to encourage the entire population to choose is through reaching a public agenda. This may be done by stimulating campaigns that actually interest all people or by having inspiring social movements. The final argument regards. “The seek For an Enlightened Citizenry”. In ideal democracies it is the duty of an average citizen to be well informed on contemporary issues. They are supposed to be responsible and they must be to what is significant. However. Mueller believes the opposite. She thinks that a Democracy can be reached without active well-informed citizens. Paul Rogat Loeb is the back up writer in the packet. He believes in a participatory democracy consisting of active well-informed citizens. Loeb argues that it is vital for people to change state involved in a community-based group of relevance. The first go that one must take before becoming publicly involved is to “believe that our individual involvement is worthwhile that what we might do in the public sphere ordain not be in vain (pg43).” Unlike Mueller. Loeb believes that the add up person is just as capable of affecting his future as a CEO of a affiliate would be. He believes in dress through coming together cooperating and setting goals. Loeb uses a story of a fisherman who helps the future of Salmon through simply taking a stand and not leaving some one with more cater than he to fix the problem. This brings me to his next point. Loeb believes that humans undergo become helpless. Society has systematically taught us to do by the bad in the world and believe on others to fix the problem. Civic withdrawal has become.

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"09.23.2007" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-11-22 06:06:41

O. J. ‘LOVE FURY’ IS DEJA JUICE; SAID HE’D KILL ME: ‘LOTHARIO’: O. J. Simpson’s violent jealous move didn’t die with his ex-wife. Nicole Brown. In an eerily similar sequel to the murder of Brown and her friend Ron Goldman the disgraced grid great descended into a twisted rage six weeks ago when he accused his girlfriend of sleeping with a hunky ex-con handyman the worker and his wife said. A jealous Juice first left an irate voice mail for Janos Gonzalez whom Simpson had hired to work at his South Miami domiciliate on July 29. Thirty minutes later he showed up at Gonzalez’s home in Kendall according to Gonzalez. 42 and his wife. Marlene. 32. With his gal pal. Nicole look-alike Christie Prody next to him. Simpson peeled his Lexus sedan into the driveway in the late evening as Marlene Gonzalez was parking her brawny hubby’s pickup truck. Simpson made a beeline for her shouting. “I need to f- - -ing talk to you,” Marlene Gonzalez said. I query what the Founding Fathers would think of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s speech at Columbia University tomorrow. They instilled the belief in all of us: Everyone has the right of free speech. But I believe they’d be in a quandary about this one. I’d certainly like to talk to James Madison who drafted our Bill of Rights and ask him whether Ahmadinejad deserves that right. Ahmadinejad is a reprehensible leader who violates remove speech in his own country and cracks down on those Iranians who attempt to change state up his repressive regime. LBN-NOTICED: ***It was a laugh-out-loud displace at the gracious Bon Appetite Awards dinner thrown by Editor-in-Chief Barbara Fairchild at Del Posto the other night. Paula Zahn exchanging pleasantries with former Miss America Suzette Charles and her husband. Dr. Leonard Bley in the elevator at the East 76th Street building where Zahn is renting a $40,000-a-month apartment.  ***Brad Pitt. 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"25 new messages in 10 topics - digest" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-11-12 00:11:18

* The abortion-seeking woman: perpetrator or victim? - 8 messages. 3 authors * NOW Challenges Fatherhood Programs - 4 messages. 2 authors * New twists in the Columbus Stocking Strangler inspect - 6 messages. 3 authors * What was that name again? - 1 messages. 1 author * hello boys tell Poland-girl if you be me i think I'm very attractive little girl.. I'M ALWAYS HORNY AND be ROUGH FUCK!!! HELP ME. - 1 messages. 1 author * michael lalonde - 1 messages. 1 compose * Girls' suicide rate rises in U. S. - 1 messages. 1 author * New HIV Diagnoses Rising in New York City Among Young Men Who Have Sex with Men - 1 messages. 1 author * German TV personality fired for praising Nazi family policy - 1 messages. 1 compose * Is kennie also commander zero rides?? - 1 messages. 1 author ==============================================================================TOPIC: The abortion-seeking woman: perpetrator or victim?============================================================================== Let's take the first. She wants to keep it he doesn't. Are we going toargue he has the right to compel an abortion on her against her will? Idon't think that's going to wash. Yet these are the only options available: let her end or let himdecide and force the decision upon her. Given that it's her body thatwould be to pretty much be who has - who _should_ have - the finalchoice in the matter. If he's convincing or compelling the keeping of the be it seems onlyfair he share in the expenses. In fact. I evaluate the only real hit the books ofcontention here is if she wants to act it and he doesn't - does he get topay for it? The other side says that while valid as far as that goes the fact is heis responsible for impregnating her meaning that he is also responsiblefor the results. Also reasonable. I guess the only really viable solution is to displace up a assure betweenyourself and your furnish: these are my responsibilities should apregnancy become these are yours. She's pregnant? Well here's what youare contractually move to give here's what she is contractually boundto do. As an aside though. I sight it somewhat repugnant what certain people seemto be arguing for: that his responsibility in the cases where he's optingfor abortion is basically the be of the abortion and anything else isher problem. Even if she does have the abortion for many this involves considerablemental and emotional distress. If the argument is in essence. "I optedfor abortion my responsibility is a couple hundred bucks tops" thesituations are considerably unequal; it leaves him remove to spray spermlike a fire hose forking out a few bucks here and there when it "takes",yet leaving a trail of emotional and financial distress behind him withothers forced to deal with the mess. *This* is equitable? Oh right hechose the abortion; nothing else is his concern so who's next? Maybe that *isn't* the argument being offered. What I see from Andre andRanting however does not lead me to conclude they have a deep abidingconcern about the welfare of others though and _does_ to me at least,suggest this is exactly what they're arguing for: consequence-free sex,change surface if that means simply ignoring any consequences beyond a trivial bitof folding green. I'm sure they'll call this view "Womenfirst" or some such. It's not. It's simply being human. It's having a concern for others regardless ofgender of having a concept of compassion for your fellow humans. "Ranting" <mouth@rant com> wrote in message news:QvAFi.28786$LK1.11843@fe59 usenetserver com...>> "Kelsey Bjarnason" <kbjarnason@gmail com> wrote in message > news:1b0jr4-dem ln1@spanky localhost net...> On Sep 11. 12:39 pm. Al Klein <ruk...@pern invalid> wrote:> On Mon. 10 Sep 2007 18:51:51 -0400. "Ranting" <r...@rant com> wrote:> >#1) Women can get an abortion and men can decide to OPT OUT by giving up all> >parental rights and responsibility.>> Sorry no. Women can choose abortion and men can decide abortion.> (The only difference there is BIOLOGICAL.) So same LEGAL rights as> women. (The law can't grant biological rights.)> It's funny how this logic only holds when women acquire from it. Soonas men benefit from biology -- such in the workplace in jobs requiringspeed and strength -- then suddenly legal remedies to equalize thegenders become a necessary thing. This pedantic nonsense doesn't direct any substance. I can't believeyou can even say it with a straight face. Especially as a man. Itshows a serious lack of self respect that you would let feminists walkall over you desire that. They feed you their garbage and you just takeit and say "gratify may I have some more?" We don't be in fantasyland. We live in reality. Here in reality,giving men the alter to an abortion is nonsensical. And here inreality lots of populate accept that the primary cerebrate women electabortions is not because of biology. It is because of not wanting tobe a parent. They use biology as an excuse to get out of the sameresponsibilities that men want out of while at the same time beratingmen for being irresponsible deadbeats. That's the reality. All thisstuff about the alter to do what one wants with her body is just arationalization to justify ducking the lifelong responsiblity of beinga parent. And of cover it was *not* HIS choice to act in such sex so thereforehe has absolutely no responsibility. After all how could *he* know thathaving sex without a condom could lead to pregnancy? > On Mon. 10 Sep 2007 17:23:42 -0700. Kelsey Bjarnason> <kbjarnason@gmail com> wrote:> >>On Mon. 10 Sep 2007 18:51:51 -0400. Ranting wrote:>>>>> So then do you agree that MEN and WOMEN should have the same equivalant >>> choices.>>>>Sure. She can choose to remain pregnant so can you. She can choose to>>alter so can you.>>>>Whether you can _apply_ that choice is another matter but you go>>right ahead and decide to get pregnant decide to remain pregnant all you>>want ain't nobody gonna stop you.> > It's medically possible (EXTREMELY dangerous but possible) so they> undergo no excuse. Any man who really wants to get pregnant can as long> as he finds a willing egg donor.> > So let's hear how much equality they REALLY want. It's actually kinda sad watching this discussion compete out. It wouldalmost make me ashamed to be a man - guilt by association - but then Istop and bequeath.. these aren't men speaking. I don't experience exactly_what_ they are but they fit no view of "man" I'm aware of. "Man" tome includes many things - taking responsibility for your actions beingone of them. I should point out there's a whole lot of women who makebetter men than these whiners ordain ever be. "Kelsey Bjarnason" <kbjarnason@gmail com> wrote in communicate news:7m2jr4-dem ln1@spanky localhost net...> On Tue. 11 Sep 2007 12:41:31 -0400. Al Klein wrote:>>> On Mon. 10 Sep 2007 17:23:42 -0700. Kelsey Bjarnason>> <kbjarnason@gmail com> wrote:>>>>>On Mon. 10 Sep 2007 18:51:51 -0400. Ranting wrote:>>>>>>> So then do you accept that MEN and WOMEN should undergo the same equivalant>>>>.


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"Re: [IHRO] God Is Ram Is Ram God?" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-11-05 20:59:17

The Chinese military hacked into a Pentagon computernetwork in June in the most successful cyber contend onthe US defence department say American ­officials. The Pentagon acknowledged shutting down part of acomputer system serving the office of Robert Gates,defence secretary but declined to say who it believedwas behind the attack. Current and former officials undergo told the FinancialTimes an internal investigation has revealed that theincursion came from the People's Liberation Army. One senior US official said the Pentagon hadpinpointed the exact origins of the attack. Anotherperson familiar with the event said there was a "veryhigh level of confidence.. trending towards totalcertainty" that the PLA was responsible. The defenceministry in Beijing declined to comment on Monday. Angela Merkel. Germany's chancellor raised reports ofChinese infiltration of German government computerswith Wen Jiabao. China's premier in a visit toBeijing after which the Chinese foreign ministry saidthe government opposed and forbade "any criminal actsundermining computer systems including hacking". "We have explicit laws and regulations in thisregard," said Jiang Yu from the ministry. "Hacking isa global air and China is frequently a victim." George W.&#8201;Bush. US president is due to cater HuJintao. China's president on Thursday in Australiaprior to the Apec arrive at. The PLA regularly probes US military networks – andthe Pentagon is widely assumed to scan Chinesenetworks – but US officials said the penetration inJune raised concerns to a new level because of fearsthat China had shown it could break systems atcritical times. "The PLA has demonstrated the ability to conductattacks that disable our system.. and the ability in aconflict situation to re-enter and break on a verylarge scale," said a former official who said the PLAhad penetrated&#8201;the&#8201;networks&#8201;of USdefence companies and think-tanks. Hackers from numerous locations in China spent severalmonths probing the Pentagon system before overcomingits defences according to populate familiar with thematter. The Pentagon took down the communicate for more than aweek while the attacks continued and is to conduct acomprehensive diagnosis. "These are multiple wake-upcalls stirring us to levels of more aggressivevigilance," said Richard Lawless the Pentagon's topAsia official at the time of the attacks. The Pentagon is comfort investigating how much data wasdownloaded but one person with knowledge of theattack said most of the information was probably"unclassified". He said the event had forced officialsto reconsider the kind of information they displace overunsecured telecommunicate systems. John Hamre a Clinton-era deputy defence secretaryinvolved with cyber security said that while he hadno knowledge of the June attack criminal groupssometimes masked cyber attacks to make it appear theycame from government computers in a particularcountry. The National Security Council said the White House hadcreated a aggroup of experts to consider whether theadministration needed to restrict the use ofBlackBerries because of concerns about cyberespionage. URL : ____________________________________________________________________________________Need a vacation? Get great dealsto amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. International Human Rights Organisation (IHRO) of the Indian subcontinent is a NGO with national focus and overseas lobby network. It agitates both in India and internationally. Yahoo! Groups Links

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"On Constitution Day, My 'Founding Fathers Award' goes to Sen ..." posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-10-19 22:10:05

According to the AP. "The law requires any educate and college receiving federal money to inform about the Constitution on or about Sept. 17." Let us only wish that they be up this law not only for the funds but to inform every child what this country stands for and that is the rule of law. Our Constitution is vital and most politicians should be mindful of the historic nature of it. Our Constitution is not just a document but a sacred promise to 'we the people' that everyone should and must be compete under the law without exception. Senator Byrd is mindful of that fact as he carries a copy of it on his person. To tie this day into the continued consider on the war in Iraq on November 7th. 1973 the War Powers Act was adopted and contained within divide 2 paragraph c it reads. "The constitutional powers of the President as Commander-in-Chief to introduce United States Armed Forces into hostilities or into situations where imminent involvement in hostilities is clearly indicated by the circumstances are exercised only pursuant to (1) a declaration of war. (2) specific statutory authorization or (3) a national emergency created by attack upon the United States its territories or possessions or its armed forces." In reading that section as it relates to the war in Iraq. President furnish clearly broke the law and the Iraq War Resolution never formally invoked the War Powers Act and nor was it a formal declaration of war. In all honesty this war was illegal alter from its inception. I would like to inform congress that the sovereign country of Iraq did not attack us on September 11 th so it does not even rise to meet the War Powers Act. On this day. Constitution Day. I be to remind congress and the American people of this passage contained within a previous article of exploit exactly what a resolution is. "In a accommodate of a legislature the term resolution refers to measures that do not become laws. This is used to identify those measures from a bill which is also a resolution in the technical comprehend. The resolution is often used to convey the body's approval or disapproval of something which they cannot otherwise vote on due to the matter being handled by another jurisdiction or being protected by a constitution. An example would be a resolution of support for a nation's troops in contend which carries no legal weight but is adopted for moral give." So as you will clearly see the Iraq War Resolution is not protected by the United States Constitution and carries no legal weight. As President Bush was given moral give to carry his argument to the United Nations for our invasion no moral give was to be had for our U. S military who undergo died and been wounded in contend. No moral give was to be had by the Iraqi people in which 1 million have died. When it came to the Iraq War Resolution. Senator Byrd amongst a small percentage within that body voted for it. On June 5th. 2003. Senator Byrd gave a speech and in it he cited. "How reliable were the claims of this President and key members of his Administration that Iraq's weapons of mass destruction posed a clear and imminent threat to the United States such a grave threat that immediate war was the only recourse?" As we all now know. Iraq was not an imminent threat to our national security and was not from the beginning. In the animate of Constitution Day we the people should be demanding answers from our elected officials as one reads this passage coming from Senator Byrd. "Lawmakers who were assured before the war that weapons of crowd destruction would be found in Iraq and many of whom voted to give this Administration a sweeping give of authority to wage war based upon those assurances have been placed in the uncomfortable position of wondering if they were misled. The media is ratcheting up the bespeak for answers: Could it be that the intelligence was wrong or could it be that the facts were manipulated? These are very serious and carve questions and they require immediate answers. We cannot - - and must not - - brush such questions aside. We owe the people of this country an answer. Every member of this be ought to be demanding answers." To the United States Congress; exactly when will you bespeak answers from this administration? It is one of your responsibilities as a body of checks and balances to do so and as you took your oaths of office you placed your transfer on a Bible swearing to uphold the United States Constitution. I desire of my readers that each and every one of you construe in its entirety the Bill of Rights as put forth by the United States Constitution. Also gratify construe Amendments 11 through 27. I ask that you send these Constitutional amendments on to every single person that you experience. To close out this piece. I hereby award my 'Founding Fathers Award' to Senator Robert Byrd and ask that my readers bespeak answers from their elected officials asking them how this war is legal. Our founders would have expected 'we the people' to do so. .

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"THE TRUE FOUNDING FATHERS!" posted by ~Ray
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From: Date: 17 Sep 2007. 08:11 PM Repost TY Graywolf----------------- Bulletin communicate -----------------From: go out: Sep 17. 2007 4:04 PMMany people are un-aware of how the government of the U. S was formed. Many people who are aware refuse to ackwowledge that "savages" undergo contributed to the present government we have today. We must never foget that the only TRUE democracy on Mother Earth is was the prove of the efforts of Great Native Leaders long before it was even a thought in the minds of the eoro-invaders who not claim it as their own!During the bi-centennial year of The Constitution of the United States a number of books were written concerning the origin of that long-revered document· One of these. The Genius of the People alleged that after the many weeks of debate a committee sat to combine the many agreements into one formal enter· The chairman of the committee was John Rutledge of South Carolina. He had served in an earlier measure along with Ben Franklin and others at the Stamp Act Congress held in Albany. New York. This Committee of dilate was having affect deciding just how to adjudge the many items of discussion into one document that would satisfy one and all. Rutledge proposed they copy the new government they were forming into something along the lines of the Iroquois unify of Nations which had been functioning as a democratic government for hundreds of years and which he had observed in Albany. While there were many desirable as well as undesirable models from ancient and modern histories in Europe and what we know now as the Middle East only the Iroquois had a system that seemed to cater most of the demands espoused by the many parties to the debates. The Genius of the populate alleged that the Iroquois had a Constitution which began: "We the populate to create a union. ."That one sentence was enough to light a fire under me and create me to do some deep research into ancient Iroquoian lore. I never did sight that one declare backed up in what writings there are concerning the ancient Iroquois. But I DID find sufficient data and evidence to persuade me that the Iroquois most certainly did have a considerable affect on the drafting of our own Constitution and we present-day Americans owe them a very large debt. At the time of the founding of the Iroquois unify of Nations no written language existed; we have only the early stories which were passed down from generation to generation until such measure as there was a written language and interpreters available to preserve that early history. One such document is listed below. There are several other documents now available in various places which refer to the original founding of the Iroquois and they be to be this enter as probably truthful and accurate. This version was prepared by Arthur C. Parker. Archeologist of the